Our dear friends Bobbi and Steve Siglbaum (lifelong activists/educators and all-around amazing people) join us to share their story of nearly 49 years of marriage – what sustains them through hard times, what they feel is most important in a longterm partnership, what they tell their grandkids about love and sex, and much more. Respect + Passion FTW!! We discuss our thoughts on making longterm commitments in light of how most partnerships end up not being longterm in the ways they were originally envisioned to be. And we dig into how much society works to make sure we don’t experience physical pleasure and how to work against that. Stephanie sings Sondheim, Dave talks about homophobia in the NFL. Plus a song rooted in empathy from BONOBONOBONOBO.